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		<title>By: M&#225;s ejemplos usando Oslo: Galer&#237;a de ejemplos de MGrammar - Miemblogs</title>
		<link>http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2008/11/08/why-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator>M&#225;s ejemplos usando Oslo: Galer&#237;a de ejemplos de MGrammar - Miemblogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nuestra intenci&#243;n es tener un contacto directo y continuo con la comunidad, compartir nuestra visi&#243;n, escuchar vuestras opiniones y ver hasta qu&#233; punto sois capaces de elevar el potencial de [...]</description>
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		<title>By: M&#225;s ejemplos usando Oslo: Galer&#237;a de ejemplos de MGrammar - Motivos de un ensamblado</title>
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		<dc:creator>M&#225;s ejemplos usando Oslo: Galer&#237;a de ejemplos de MGrammar - Motivos de un ensamblado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nuestra intenci&#243;n es tener un contacto directo y continuo con la comunidad, compartir nuestra visi&#243;n, escuchar vuestras opiniones y ver hasta qu&#233; punto sois capaces de elevar el potencial de [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oslo &#8211; It&#8217;s a Floor Wax and a Dessert Topping&#8230; &#124; popcoder.com</title>
		<link>http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2008/11/08/why-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Oslo &#8211; It&#8217;s a Floor Wax and a Dessert Topping&#8230; &#124; popcoder.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why &quot;Oslo&quot;? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: New and Notable 278 : Sam Gentile's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2008/11/08/why-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>New and Notable 278 : Sam Gentile's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Doug Purdy makes the case for Oslo [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WMOC#26 - Microsoft PDC Roundup - Service Endpoint</title>
		<link>http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2008/11/08/why-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>WMOC#26 - Microsoft PDC Roundup - Service Endpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why &#8220;Oslo&#8221;? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oslo – It’s a Floor Wax and a Dessert Topping… &#171; POP Coder</title>
		<link>http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2008/11/08/why-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Oslo – It’s a Floor Wax and a Dessert Topping… &#171; POP Coder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why &#8220;Oslo&#8221;? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Colin Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking more about it I&#039;m guessing a reply to my point would be &quot;stop thinking in the old way, this is a major shift&quot;. Guess I need to try out Oslo myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking more about it I&#8217;m guessing a reply to my point would be &#8220;stop thinking in the old way, this is a major shift&#8221;. Guess I need to try out Oslo myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Good observations about &#8220;Oslo&#8221; from David Ing &#171; Douglas Purdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good observations about &#8220;Oslo&#8221; from David Ing &#171; Douglas Purdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote my Why &#8220;Oslo&#8221;? post, I really wanted to drive the simplest story about value of &#8220;Oslo&#8221; to mainstream [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Colin Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, now that is a fast response thanks! :)

Yeah it helps and definitely isn&#039;t something I&#039;d gotten from the other content I&#039;d read.

Just to be clear though, and I accept that since I don&#039;t know fully understand Oslo this may be a naive question, are there going to be limits on how/where we express the behavior in the models in the second layer? In particular in a normal OO domain model behavior takes many forms and is spread throughout the model and I&#039;m hoping Oslo will still support this approach.

Basically I&#039;m hoping that at this level we don&#039;t end up with a Customer &quot;entity&quot; in a model where that entity has no behavior and is operated on by WF/rules. Might not be a realistic issue with Oslo but it was my main worry when I looked at the examples out there (been there done that...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, now that is a fast response thanks! <img src='http://www.douglaspurdy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yeah it helps and definitely isn&#8217;t something I&#8217;d gotten from the other content I&#8217;d read.</p>
<p>Just to be clear though, and I accept that since I don&#8217;t know fully understand Oslo this may be a naive question, are there going to be limits on how/where we express the behavior in the models in the second layer? In particular in a normal OO domain model behavior takes many forms and is spread throughout the model and I&#8217;m hoping Oslo will still support this approach.</p>
<p>Basically I&#8217;m hoping that at this level we don&#8217;t end up with a Customer &#8220;entity&#8221; in a model where that entity has no behavior and is operated on by WF/rules. Might not be a realistic issue with Oslo but it was my main worry when I looked at the examples out there (been there done that&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: metadouglasp</title>
		<link>http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2008/11/08/why-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>metadouglasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@colin jack

there are three layers here.

the first is the &quot;oslo&quot; layer where you model any domain.

you could, of course, choose to model your business at this layer -- in fact that is what we are doing -- our business domain is the construction of applications.

we think a lot of ISVs and framework authors will model at this layer -- as this is their business domain.

the second are the developer domains where a .Net developer will model applications.

It is at this layer, that most business domains for enterprises, etc. will be modeled.

This will be inclusive of behavior, etc. -- as we are modeling behavior for you to use (WF, etc.).

that is a key point to get across -- behavior is just another model -- it is not something special in the system.

i hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@colin jack</p>
<p>there are three layers here.</p>
<p>the first is the &#8220;oslo&#8221; layer where you model any domain.</p>
<p>you could, of course, choose to model your business at this layer &#8212; in fact that is what we are doing &#8212; our business domain is the construction of applications.</p>
<p>we think a lot of ISVs and framework authors will model at this layer &#8212; as this is their business domain.</p>
<p>the second are the developer domains where a .Net developer will model applications.</p>
<p>It is at this layer, that most business domains for enterprises, etc. will be modeled.</p>
<p>This will be inclusive of behavior, etc. &#8212; as we are modeling behavior for you to use (WF, etc.).</p>
<p>that is a key point to get across &#8212; behavior is just another model &#8212; it is not something special in the system.</p>
<p>i hope that helps.</p>
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